This podcast was originally featured on The Great Conversation.


Listen in as Ron Worman, Founder and Managing Director of The Sage Group, gets inside the mind of Ontic’s Fred Burton, a former police officer, special agent and New York Times best-selling author who has the history and credentials to provide thought leadership around protective intelligence; the critical tool for organizations in an increasing complex world.

In this podcast, Ron and Fred hone in on the fact that we are never quite equipped, never fully ready, and never can fully imagine what might occur. But we can develop a leadership and organizational mindset. And we can create a platform to aggregate the critical information we need at the time of need, so that we are prepared to assist our stakeholders stay safe, secure, and resilient.

Listen to the podcast: Inside the Mind of a Protective Intelligence Thought Leader

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About the Center for Protective Intelligence

By every metric, the role of protective intelligence is growing increasingly important for your security program. The Center for Protective Intelligence is Ontic's approach for sharing our expertise through content and community building in order to support the mission of physical security professionals of keeping people safe.

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